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BeGTCC 08 - GENERAL INFORMATION - STATUS AS OF 13-01-2008

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Postby DH » Tue Jan 22, 2008 23:16

Team: DH-Racing
Team Manager: Damian Dainhumain
Drivers: Driver1: Damian Dainhumain , Driver2: Robin Taylor
Driver fees: €10,000 to Robin for each win, €4,000 to Robin for each podium
Car's to be used: Lamborghini Murciélago R-GT
Car numbers: 003 & 004


Team: DH-Motorsports
Team Manager: Damian Dainhumain
Drivers: Driver1: Sam Moreels, Driver2: Kevin Corsius
Driver fees: €8,000 for each podium, €5,000 for every finish, €14,000 for each win if any.
Car's to be used: Porsche 996 GT3 RSR
Car number's: 52 & 53
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Postby DH » Wed Jan 23, 2008 15:23

I've updated my post, the TVR even with -50kg just ain't fast enough to compete for wins against the RSR, M3 and 360, I tested the Nissan with -100kg too and its the same situation so I'll stick to GT.
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Postby Sloeri » Wed Jan 23, 2008 16:10

DH wrote:I've updated my post, the TVR even with -50kg just ain't fast enough to compete for wins against the RSR, M3 and 360, I tested the Nissan with -100kg too and its the same situation so I'll stick to GT.


are they far off ? else i will adjust the weights more...
how is the fuel and tyre wear though... probably there is an advantage on that...
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Postby DH » Wed Jan 23, 2008 16:36

Sloeri wrote:
DH wrote:I've updated my post, the TVR even with -50kg just ain't fast enough to compete for wins against the RSR, M3 and 360, I tested the Nissan with -100kg too and its the same situation so I'll stick to GT.


are they far off ? else i will adjust the weights more...
how is the fuel and tyre wear though... probably there is an advantage on that...


Well, I can do a 29.0 at Doni in the RSR, probably could go a bit faster, In the TVR could only manage a 31.0 and I was pushing it , I could put in a 30.8, so its a good second+ slower, the rear tyre wear ain't very good either to be honest. I reckon another -35 to 50kg would do it good. as it is with the -50kg I would be struggling to get it on the podium in 3rd on the limit. The Nissan, well for me it just seems allot slower even with the less weight but that could be due to the engine and me not having enough time to get into it, so it might not be worth the time messing with it, It would be nice to see what someone else (like Eric) could do in the TVR at Doni with -50kg, on GTR2 rank without the less weight the fastest time is 31.8.

The main reason I wanted to go to NGT is for a different challenge but also race in a different car like the TVR or the Nissan against all the usual NGT cars.
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Postby [RFY]GTR Racer » Wed Jan 23, 2008 19:24

I can do 31's at Donington in the stock TVR. 1:31:5 i do beleive i've done before.
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Postby DH » Wed Jan 23, 2008 19:39

I probably needed to give it a bit more time and I would of pumped out a few 30's fa sure, but still its not fast enough for me as I know I could do a high 28 in a RSR with some more setup work :wink:
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Postby Yves » Sat Jan 26, 2008 00:07

DaveyZ wrote:
Yves wrote:Register as team :
- Name of the Team: The Flying Belgian
- Name of the Team Manager: Yves Ampe
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Driver 1: Yves Ampe; Driver 2: ?
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Yves, number 13 was already taken by SD Motorsports..

so i think u have to choose another number mate.. ;)

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:wink: I'll take 32 and 33
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Postby DaveyZ » Sat Jan 26, 2008 00:08

Ok, thanks for ur help.. :) Steven and I wanted our lucky numbers :P

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Postby Yves » Sat Jan 26, 2008 00:31

DaveyZ wrote:
Yves wrote:Register as team :
- Name of the Team: The Flying Belgian
- Name of the Team Manager: Yves Ampe
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Driver 1: Yves Ampe; Driver 2: ?
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Yves, number 13 was already taken by SD Motorsports..

so i think u have to choose another number mate.. ;)

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:wink: I'll take 32 and 33
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Postby Yves » Sat Jan 26, 2008 11:50

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Postby Jeffrey » Sat Jan 26, 2008 13:00

My intake on the weights:

GT: (or also known as GT1)
-Ferrari F550 Maranello (BMS) +20kg : Seems good.

-Ferrari F550 Maranello (JMB) +15kg : Also good

-Saleen S7R, Maserati MC12, -20kg : Saleen is a better car than MC12 and can't be mentioned with same weightdeduction

-Lamborghini Murciélago R-GT -20kg : 40kg between F550 and Lambo isn't right, the Lambo is probably the 2nd best can in GTR2 and should probably have something around +5kg or +10kg

-Lister Storm GT -50kg : This is a huge weightdrop and will make the Lister a titlecandidate. It's fuel and tyrewear will even be less and it can already be very close to the rest. If you are still consedering what car to take, consider this one!

-Ferrari F575 GTC -15kg : Probably 0kg is better as it's a good car, not that far from a F550

-Chevrolet Corvette C5R -60kg : This car is by default not even 1s slower than a Saleen and with it's good fueleconomy and tyrewear it's very good over a distance, now with this weightdrop, it's good for a title.

-Ferrari F550 Maranello (Wieth) -30kg : Can't comment, never driven this one.

-Chrysler Viper GTS-R -30kg : Seems to be alright, the Viper is fas less competitive in GTR2 than it was in GTR1 and real life, so it needs some help to fix this problem. -20 to -30 seems alright.

-Porsche 993 GT2 -40kg : I think this is the slowest car out there but only gets -40kg. By default few seconds a lap slower than any other GT1, so I think it needs much more weight taken off.

-Porsche P96 : Not tested (enough)

-Marcos +115kg : Addon car with very questionable physics.
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Postby John Gordon » Sat Jan 26, 2008 13:30

[quote="Jeffrey"]My intake on the weights:


-Porsche P96 : Not tested (enough)

Plese test this more, I am interested to see what others think about it, turn the revs right up and enjoy.
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Postby Roadrunner » Sat Jan 26, 2008 14:18

Im with Jeff on the weights. Wieth Ferrari is only 20hp down on the BMS/JMB cars..but changing it to Michelins will make it pretty handy still with -30kg. needs weight adding, not off. 0kg for 575 sounds right

Lambo does need weight adding...not far away from the 550 all things considered. Bit less taken off for the Lister an Corvette i think, and 911 GT2 needs an awful lot more taking off to get anywhere
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Postby DH » Sat Jan 26, 2008 16:54

IMO The Saleen and Lambo are very close, if anything the Saleen is the 2nd best car in the game, more reliable engine and its got better rear tyre wear too, they should have the same weight, just take a look at GTR2 rank its mainly Saleens above the Lambo in the times, 40kg between F550 and Lambo isn't right then 40kg between a F550 and Saleen isn't right either going with that, putting the lambo on +5kg or +10kg and Saleen with -20kg will just give the Saleen a advantage clearly, but I agree about all the other weights.
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Postby Jeffrey » Sat Jan 26, 2008 17:04

DH wrote:IMO The Saleen and Lambo are very close, if anything the Saleen is the 2nd best car in the game, more reliable engine and its got better rear tyre wear too, they should have the same weight, just take a look at GTR2 rank its mainly Saleens above the Lambo in the times, 40kg between F550 and Lambo isn't right then 40kg between a F550 and Saleen isn't right either going with that, putting the lambo on +5kg or +10kg and Saleen with -20kg will just give the Saleen a advantage clearly, but I agree about all the other weights.


Yes you are right, I forgot to mention the Saleen weights :P. Saleen might indeed be better than the Lambo. Some even say it's just as fast in qually as a F550, it just loses out in the race with much higher tyrewear and fuelusage. And ofcourse the less reliable engine than the F550.
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